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Why don’t Jews believe that Jesus was the messiah?by Rabbi Naftali Silberberg
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Why Jews don't beleive Jesus was Messiah
Posted by: Ralph G., Philadelphia, PA on Jan 25, 2005
Editor's Comment
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Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 26, 2005
You cannot take isolated phrases and say "look it's Jesus!!!" That is now the Jewish Torah (bible) works. Events must be taken in context.
A classic example of mistranslation is
"53:5 "But he was wounded FROM our transgressions, he was crushed FROM our iniquities."
Christian sources change FROM to FOR and I'm sure you can figure out where they go with it.
All of 53 is referring to Israel and the Jews. However, Christians say it is talking about Jesus! There are many conflicting statements:
53:10 "He will prolong his days."
Not only did Jesus die young, but how could the days be prolonged of someone who is alleged to be God himself ?
Jesus
Posted by: Anonymous, Stratford, Canada on Feb 28, 2005
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Posted by: Brandon, Dallas, TX, U.S. on Mar 28, 2005
"I don't believe Jesus' name is mentioned there... Is that the only chapter in the Bible which deals with the Messianic redemption? Even if Jesus' story bears similarities to Isaiah 53, how about all the other Messianic prophecies which he never fulfilled?"
WHAT ABOUT THE VAST MAJORITY HE DID?
Editor's Comment
For argument's sake, let's assume that he did fulfill "the vast majority" of the prophecies.
I wonder, if I told you that I would like to meet you. Please wait for me on this corner and I'll be arriving in my '87 white Toyota Camry wagon which has a dent on the front-left fender. I am a 6 feet 2 inches tall male, with red hair and I walk with a limp.
Now, if you're standing at the designated meeting area and someone approaches you, and this person fulfills almost all the conditions -- except for the fact that it is a female with jet-black hair -- would you assume it was me?!
And let us remember that all these prophecies are Divine...
RE: Tanslation errors
Posted by: CordonBleu on Apr 04, 2005
Why Jews don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah
Posted by: Christina, Philadelphia, PA, USA on Apr 15, 2005
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Isaiah 53
Posted by: Neal Facciuto on Apr 26, 2005
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Which prophecies did he not fulfill?
Posted by: Anonymous on Jun 16, 2005
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Jesus
Posted by: Chris Bird, Calgary, Canada on Jul 10, 2005
Its all about the Hebrew!
Posted by: Aharon, Memphis, TN, USA on Jul 30, 2005
The Hebrew word that appears in Is 53:10 for the word seed is the hebrew word "Zera" and can mean only physical offspring...ie CHILDREN. Christians have interpreted this to mean Yeshu's "spiritual offspring".......but it can mean only physical offspring and we know that Yeshu did not have children or live a long a life. Therefore, Isaiah 53 can in no way refer to Yeshu.
53:10......... he shall see children, he shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand.
Jesus being the Messiah
Posted by: Anonymous, Los Angeles, CA on Aug 20, 2005
Basically, the Messiah was/ will be of low birth and had no royal lineage.
And yet, Jews believe that the Messiah will be of relation to David.
Personally, I'm not Jewish or Christian, but I noticed this and want to know what other people think.
Editor's Comment
Response to Editor's response to
Posted by: Anonymous, Chicago, IL, USA on Sep 11, 2005
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Addition to Response to Editor's reponse of Deteronomy 30.
Posted by: Anonymous, Chicago, IL, USA on Sep 11, 2005
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Translation and meaning.
Posted by: Anonymous, West Chester, PA on Oct 01, 2005
A classic example of mistranslation is
"53:5 "But he was wounded FROM our transgressions, he was crushed FROM our iniquities." Christian sources change FROM to FOR and I'm sure you can figure out where they go with it.
Of course that is easy...but what does it mean that he was wounded from our transgressions and crushed from our iniquities...did our transgressions wound him...crushed seems to signify squished...like you would crush an ant with your foot...seems kind of final...like death.
what is your understanding of what this means?
Is the he a collective he...I thought second person singular was one or is it different here? If so how?
Is it Israel's transgressions, and iniquities. Was he wounded by them, crushed by them? The "our" seems to denote the Jews, but the he???
Isaiah 53
Posted by: Jennifer, Merritt Island, Fl on Oct 05, 2005
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Why Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah?
Posted by: Anonymous, Australia on Oct 12, 2005
Jesus
Posted by: April, Cincinnati, Ohio on Oct 29, 2005
Why don't Jews belive Jesus is the Messiah?
Posted by: Alanta, St. Neots, Cambs, England on Nov 28, 2005
I hope I helped.
Just wondering
Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 30, 2005
Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself will give you [a] a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and [b] will call him Immanuel.
christian has been always relate this scripture to Matthew 1:23 saying the one born from the virgin (In this case) is Jesus.
Editor's Comment
refering to the one above
Posted by: Anonymous on Dec 04, 2005
from the following links. maiden seem to means virgin but you say it isnt.
maid·en (mād'n)
n.
An unmarried girl or woman.
A virgin.
A machine resembling the guillotine, used in Scotland in the 16th and 17th centuries to behead criminals.
Sports.
A racehorse that has never won a race.
A maiden over.
PS: Is virgin giving birth to a baby is considered a part of paganism ?
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Jesus
Posted by: Norm, FL on Dec 26, 2005
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WHY DON'T JEWS BELIEVE JESUS IS THE MESSIAH
Posted by: Anonymous, Plainview, NY on Jan 20, 2006
Just curious...
Posted by: Anonymous, San Antonio, TX on Jan 30, 2006
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Jesus/Messiah
Posted by: Jamie Gordon on Feb 03, 2006
Just to clarify, I'm LDS (mormon) and I do believe Jesus is the Messiah and much more. The creator of the earth. However, I've always been fascinated with Judaism.
I certainly understand why Jews don't believe Jesus was the Messiah. But I was wondering. If its not Jesus, then who is it? Is Elijah the Messiah? I understood that it was the I AM or G-d. G-d himself would come to redeem the Jews. Elijah is certainly not G-d although he was a prophet. And if G-d is just a mere Force with no form, how can G-d itself be it?
Also, I was wondering what "strengthening the Torah" meant?
I'd apprectiate the clarification.
Jae
Editor's Comment
Jesus as Messiah
Posted by: John Ross Jr, Chicago, IL on Feb 17, 2006
It is impossible to reject him..."when the students are ready the teacher will come." Two thousand years of prayer, research, and investigation has shown that Jesus is not the Jewish messiah. Quite simply: the Jewish people would have figured it out by now!
If G-d has blinded them, then why fight G-d's will and attempt to convert the Jews?
Salvation is based upon 'teshuvah'or repentence, not any sacrifice. Tehillim (Psalm) 51 states that: "sacrifice and oblation I deire not, but a humble and contrite heart, I will not reject." There is absolutely no relation between Jewish temple sacrifice and the idea of atonement for sin. That is a Greek, gentile idea. Issac was spared from Abraham's knife by G-d himself!
On Jesus
Posted by: Anonymous, windsor, on, Canada on Jul 07, 2006
if we flip to Exodus 4:22, even using the NLT, which is the most distorted christian translation - we can get a further understanding of Isaiah 53.
Exodus 4:22
Then you will tell him, `This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son.
Notice that here, Israel is not only personified, it is presented in a masculine sense (son).
A big misconception is that Jesus was crucified for blasphemy. This actually isn't the case at all. Religious blasphemers were stoned to death, rome only crucified people for political reasons, and Jesus apparentlty proclaimed himself the "king of the jews". This was at a time when political tensions were already high as it was. His death gave him instant martyr status among his followers.
Next, at the time of Jesus, there was other historical accounts of people walking around with disciples - and even performing miracles.
Re: It's all about the Hebrew
Posted by: Lando, Aventura, FL on Aug 07, 2006
That comment is not exact. The Hebrew word "Zerah" may have different meanings other than "offspring". In fact, the usual literal translation is "Seed", but as you will find in any Biblical Hebrew Dictionary, sometimes it means Fruit, Field, or Sowing.
The Jewish Publication Society's most recently published Tanakh (Jewish Bible) translates Zerah as "Offspring" (in Genesis 3:15), as "Seed" (in Isaiah 6:13 and Jeremiah 35:7), as "Fields" (in Jeremiah 35:7), and as "Sowing" (in Zechariah 8:12).
So, following Isaiah 53, maybe Messiah is not supposed to have physical offspring, he could plant "seed", sow fields, and reap fruit.
A Work of Fiction
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 10, 2006
works of fiction?
Posted by: Anonymous, miami, fl on Nov 06, 2006
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Jesus as Messiah
Posted by: Sarah, Bryant, AR on Dec 16, 2006
First, let me give legitimacy to what I am about to say...I was raised in a conservative Christian home and lived most of my 36 years believing wholeheartedly that Jesus was messiah.
Even through all those years, and especially now that I know the truth, one thing bothered me:
If Christians purport to believe that G-d sent himself to die on that cross as a sacrifice for mankind, how can the Christians blame the Jews?? According to Christian theology, G-d willed that event and it was unavoidable. How can any human be accountable for G-d's will?
Secondly, and less important, given it was reportedly G-d's will, the ROMANS killed Jesus according to the NT, NOT the Jewish people. The Roman governor could have stopped it. But, I guess it wouldn't do any good to hate the Romans because they aren't here now, are they?