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Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: Welcome......how can I help you?:)
confused: How can I explan modesty to my friends without looking like I live in a bubble?
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: what do you mean?
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: your friends don't understand self respect? dignity? privacy?
confused: My friends aren't jewish they don't understand the restrictions and when I try to tell them it never comes out right
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: it's not about restrictions
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: it's about personal dignity and self-respect
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: let me ask you this: if your friends were invited to the White House for a formal dinner...would they be restricted in what they'd wear?
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: they'd understand perfectly that there is a dress code, right?
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: for a formal dinner...
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: they'd not even think of showing up in jeans and tank top
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: yes?
confused: that's true
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: ok...so much for 'restrictions' :)
confused: :)
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: as for being modest....tell your friends to look at the most powerful women in the world today..the most accomplished
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: Margaret Thatcher
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: Condoliza Rice
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: how're they dressed?
confused: I'm guessing digified, sorry I don't no who they are but I will find out
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: do...:)
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: so....what we do see....is that women who are accomplilshed and important and powerful....and have a strong sense of their own dignity....they dress modestly
confused: I just get stuck because If I say something like that I'm afriad it will be offencive to them because if their not dressed the way i am it's like saying their not modest
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: dont' be critical or judbmental
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: just make the point
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: tell them to look at important women....college deans....orchestra conductors....scientists and lecturers and historians
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: and women in politics
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: and look at how they're dressed
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: at least in public :)
confused: I'm a bit confussed myself why do we dress this way I mean I understand that it is dignifed but I guess I don't understand what being dignifed is maybe that is why I'm having such a hard time. I mean yes women in important positions do dress modestly maybe it is because they want to be taken seriously is that right
confused: and as a jew we have a certain way we see things as being modest is that right?
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: exactly
Mrs. Bronya Shaffer: being taken seriously....and being viewed with respect
confused: ok good thank you :):)thank you very much
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